On Monday, September 29, 2003, Mr. Wim Dankbaar requested I send him a copy of my web page on the Vernon/Shelton documents. He requested I supply it in MS Word format (which I have done) so he could respond. He also made a few comments about my report and issued a few questions. Below are his comments/questions and my responses.

One reason I decided to respond immediately was when Mr. Dankbaar asked me to consider the following for our discussions:

"One rule I'd like to propose is that our exchange will not be considered private and both of us are free to copy it as a whole or in fragments to the public arena."

As you will see at the end of this paper, I replied that NOT PRIVATE was fine but I don't much care for FRAGMENTS. That way either party can edit comments as he sees fit. Mr. Vernon was very adept at sending "fragmented" replies. I don't intend to travel down that road again.

An additional point I find rather amusing: - Note his comment in his #5. He claims I would "rather work towards a pre-assumed conclusion." Compare that to his #3 "You have probably already seen that I label your piece as disinfo." Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. What fun!

Mr. Dankbaar: It's always nice to see publicity for our project. Since we never had the pleasure to communicate directly and you seem to know all about me, I thought we might as well start. If you're following our project so closely.

Perry responds: If you look at the opening of my article you will probably see I actually know very little about you. From information posted on the Internet I deduced that you either decided to take over or buy the project from Mr. Vernon. Actually at the start I was somewhat pleased, as Mr. Vernon never really addressed the large majority of issues surrounding the case.

Mr. Dankbaar: Now, I wonder how we are going to play this game.

Perry responds: You may but I do not consider this a game. When you addressed me under the subject "I'm honored with your interest!" was part of the game? Additionally I don't know where you got the idea I have a Doctorate. I am no relation to Dr. Malcolm Perry. The only person I know of who uses the designation loosely is Mr. Vernon a.k.a. Dr. Truth.

Mr. Dankbaar: You have probably already seen that I label your piece as disinfo. Bob Vernon seems to think you are working for the CIA on an assignment to discredit every piece of credible evidence that may emerge regarding a conspiracy that resulted in JFK's murder. I have no way of knowing, nor the means to prove that you work for the CIA.

Perry responds: It does not bother me that you accuse my report of being a piece of "disinfo." Mr. Vernon has called my investigative reports worse. One thing to remember when it comes to a criminal investigation, generalities won’t work. I am not out to "discredit every piece of credible evidence." It appears Mr. Vernon has never shared any "credible evidence" with the people that count. If true there would have been all sorts of people lined up to answer the "Cattle Call." If he had such documentation this entire case would have gone to the Grand Jury back in 1994.

Mr. Dankbaar: What I do know, is that I resent your methods and tactics, and that they lack the standard ethics of good journalism to hear the other side.

Perry responds: You have your opinion and I have mine. However, I have been hearing from "the other side" Mr. Vernon et al for years. They have supplied uncorroborated information, a for profit "video tape confession", and hearsay.

Perry responds: As to my lack of ethics I noted you were upset that I posted my article without "exchanging a word with either you or Zack Shelton." Mr. Vernon posted his WRITTEN remarks, as well as, Mr. Shelton’s on the Internet, which is a public forum. I commented only on what has been WRITTEN with my observations as to the problems that needed to be solved. I noted nothing in writing from YOU accompanying those documents. Since you were not involved you didn’t enter into the equation and because I worked solely with Mr. Shelton’s report I have absolutely no obligation to contact either of you for comment.

Perry responds: Back on October 11, 1996 I agreed with Waleed Ali of MPI Media Group to interview Mr. Files in prison. All Waleed asked of me was "that the only way I expect your opinion to change is based on real proof of that which is contrary to your current views." That was fine with me. However, I never got the chance. One day before I was to leave Waleed called and said the trip was canceled. My understanding was Mr. Vernon indicated that under no circumstances was he going to allow me to see Mr. Files. So don’t lecture me about resentment of methods and tactics.

Perry responds: In typical Bob Vernon fashion I suppose if I asked no questions and followed blindly the "proofs" offered, I would be considered neither a disinformation agent nor unethical. If that is how you set your criteria for individuals looking into this case, I am glad for the title you so kindly bestow.

Mr. Dankbaar: This leads me to believe you have no desire to print factual information, but rather work towards a pre-assumed conclusion.

Perry responds: If you really take a good look at my page you will see that I responded to quotes made in formal documents presented by Mr. Vernon or Mr. Shelton. Additionally, my report clearly indicates my source material. You asked me to send you my report in Word format. Since I have done so you will now have your chance to show point by point where my information is not factual.

Perry responds: Are you actually going to deny Mr. Vernon didn't produce the "Cattle Call" advertisement, that the FBI report on their interview of Files doesn't exist, that there is no Kathryn Marvin report on Plumlee, that Rademacher didn't find two shell casings, that Vernon's letters to Bolt and Cochran are fabricated?

Perry responds: With you view of events you will get as far with Nancy Bronstein as Joe West did with Ron Dusek.

Mr. Dankbaar: I would also like to know what your basic view on the Kennedy assassination is, with regard to supporting the Warren Commission findings or dismissing them in favor of a conspiracy. If the latter, please let me have your basic thoughts as to who was behind it in your opinion, based on the extensive information you have undoubtedly gathered.

Perry responds: Obviously you have only checked my pages concerning the Files/Vernon matter. My stance on the assassination has appeared on my pages for years. However, since you asked:

Common sense dictates there were and probably are, at any given point in time, conspiracies brewing to kill high profile political leaders. i.e. After Abraham Lincoln’s assassination four of the plotters were executed by hanging on July 7, 1865. Two Puerto Rican nationals were killed attempting to storm Blair House to assassinate President Harry Truman on November 1, 1950.

Specific to John F. Kennedy

We know of one particular incident less than two weeks before the assassination: Joseph Milteer was a functionary with the Georgia chapter of the National States Rights Party. Government records show the Miami police and Dade County Sheriff’s office had an informant named William Somerset "planted" within Milteer’s organization. On November 9, 1963 Somerset taped a conversation in which Milteer detailed the plans for the assassination. He claimed a group of conspirators planned to kill Kennedy on or about November 18th. Kennedy was traveling to Miami, Fl. to make a speech at the Orange Bowl. Kennedy was to be killed during the Presidential motorcade by having an assassin fire a high powered rifle from the window of an office building. On November 12, 1963 local law enforcement officials met with the Secret Service and provided a complete transcript. The motorcade was canceled and Kennedy took a helicopter to the stadium. The complete transcript appears in Harold Weisberg’s Frame-Up. (pp. 468-475)

I find it amusing that folks like you always refer to the Warren Commission while you never mention the conclusions of the House Select Committee on Assassinations:

"Based on the committee’s entire investigation, it concluded that the Secret Service, FBI, and CIA were not involved in the assassination. The committee concluded that it is probable that the President was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy." (Emphasis mine) New York Times, Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations. (pg. 288)

Furthermore the report states:

"Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President." (New York Times reprint of selected portions of the Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations, pg. 63)

So we actually know there was at least one active conspiracy to kill Kennedy in November, 1963 and moreover the Federal Government through the HSCA is on the historical record "that it is probable that the President was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."

I think the best link is still organized crime.

Mr. Dankbaar: Furthermore, let me end this email for now with a question that intrigues me: What is your source for your statement that Joe Granata is deceased?

Perry responds: I got that information from the US Social Security Index. The site gave May 6, 2002 as the date of death. If I am in error let me know and I will correct it with apologies to Mr. Granata.

Mr. Dankbaar: And on a side note, since you appear to have been involved in checking the Roscoe White story: Do happen to know if Philip Jordan is dead?

Perry responds: Not that I know of. He has made several appearances on Dallas local television over the past few years usually with respect to drug enforcement issues. I believe he is still alive.

Mr. Dankbaar: One rule I'd like to propose is that our exchange will not be considered private and both of us are free to copy it as a whole or in fragments to the public arena.

Perry responds: I am more that happy to agree with the exception THE ENTIRE TEXT WILL BE USED - NO FRAGMENTS. I am used to seeing "fragments" of investigations being presented such as shown in Mr. Vernon’s letter to John Bolt. If you agree you can start by posting the FULL text of this letter to any forum you wish with a copy to me?

Dave Perry 09/29/03